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anger tonight in turned to anger tonight in southport. riot police have been charged at and crowds have gathered outside a mosque where disorder has broken out. now, following a vigil vigil to remember three little girls stabbed to death a teenager has been accused of murder and attempted murder and is in police custody. footage from the scene is circulating on social media and it shows a police van has been set alight and some members in the crowd have been seeing throwing objects, including what appear to be bncks including what appear to be bricks at police officers. we are monitoring those events in southport for you tonight and as we get more detail, we'll bring them to you. well, earlier on them to you. well, earlier on the prime minister paid tribute to the victims of the knife attack. he was faced by hostile shouts from the public as he laid a wreath and stood in silence. some people shouted , silence. some people shouted, how many more.7 the prime minister says it's now his mission to crack down on knife crime . crime. >> i am very worried about high levels of knife crime, and i'm

absolutely determined that my government will get to grips with it. but today is not the time for politics. today is the time for politics. today is the time to focus entirely on the families who are going through such pain and grief, and on the wider community. and of course, a time to say thank you to those that responded yesterday. >> let me just bring you a breaking line that we've got from merseyside police has just come to me in the last 30s or so. merseyside police , so. merseyside police, acknowledging what's happening on the streets of southport tonight. and they've said we can confirm officers are dealing with a disturbance during a protest in southport this evening. officers deployed are currently dealing with criminal behaviour and violence, with bottles and wheelie bins being thrown at them. that's just within the last few moments from merseyside police. well as i said, a community in mourning in southport and the prime minister's visit coming as police named the three little

girls who died, they were seven year old elsie stancombe , nine year old elsie stancombe, nine year old elsie stancombe, nine year old elsie stancombe, nine year old alice aguhar and six year old alice aguhar and six year old alice aguhar and six year old b.b. king. speaking in the commons tonight, the home secretary described the scenes in southport as an unspeakable tragedy. yvette cooper told mps it's difficult to comprehend the horror emergency workers faced police. >> the north west ambulance service and merseyside fire and rescue, who arrived at an unimaginably distressing scene yesterday and who responded with heroic professionalism, aided by passers by, nhs workers and off duty emergency workers who heard the calls of distress and ran to help . as the police officer said help. as the police officer said to me when we spoke, they do these jobs knowing they can be called upon in the toughest of times, but nothing still can prepare you for an attack on little children . little children. >> yvette cooper, speaking earlier , well, let's not forget earlier, well, let's not forget that five other children and two

adults remain in a critical condition in hospital tonight after what was described by merseyside police as a ferocious attack . we now know the attack attack. we now know the attack took place at a taylor swift themed dance workshop at the start of the children's summer holidays. the pop star herself today paying tribute to the victim , saying she's in shock at victim, saying she's in shock at the loss of life and horrendous trauma, adding they were just little kids. well, we'll bring you more news from southport throughout the rest of the evening here on gb. news now. in other news, tonight, a serial shoplifter who committed what was described as near olympian scale fraud has been jailed for ten years. today, narinder kaur travelled all over the country to carry out what the judge described as a tsunami of dishonesty against top high street retailers, stealing around half a million pounds worth of items. gloucester crown court heard the 54 year old stole from the likes of boots , stole from the likes of boots, debenhams, john lewis and tk max. more than a thousand times

and microsoft has hit been hit rather by another global outage impacting, we're told, email and 365 functions including minecraft. the tech giant says it's investigating a network infrastructure issue affecting access to its services. it comes just two weeks after a separate major it outage disrupted global systems, including transportation and health care, due to a flawed software update from crowdstrike. those are the latest gb news headlines from the newsroom tonight. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an houn middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. see you then . hour. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good evening. yesterday three

children were brutally killed in southport, the third of whom a nine year old girl, passed away. this morning. the two other girls were aged six and seven. they went there to dance along to pop star taylor swift. now they're gone. eight other children suffered stab wounds, five of whom are still in a critical condition , alongside critical condition, alongside two brave adults who were injured trying to protect the youngsters. and today the prime minister, sir keir starmer, was heckled in the streets as he laid flowers at the scene in southport. >> time for change starmer come on. >> needed. how many more children is it .7 might next. got children is it.7 might next. got your photos off you go. make a real change, prime minister >> make a real change. our children . children. >> go away. i've just found out my friends nine year old daughter was killed up on terrace .

terrace. >> you could hear angry locals saying. is that it.7 in regard to the prime minister briefly laying flowers at the scene and tensions have continued to rise throughout the day. in the last houn throughout the day. in the last hour, a large crowd has gathered outside a mosque, chanting and throwing stones and bottles at riot police . officers stood riot police. officers stood guard outside the building amid chants of no surrender and engush chants of no surrender and english til i die from sections of the crowd. some police officers have reportedly suffered what appear to be minor injuries in chaotic scenes outside the mosque. a riot van was also set on fire. a police helicopter is also said to be hovering over the area. well, we can cross live to southport now and gb news reporter sophie reaper sophie, can you tell me about the atmosphere that's playing out at the moment in southport .7 southport.7 >> absolutely. the atmosphere is incredibly tense here. we've had to retreat to a safe distance

after things simply became too dangerous for us. now we've been here all day in southport today, where things have remained relatively calm, but of course in the last hour or so alone, we were preparing to leave southport for the day. when i became aware of this riot taking place, and we had to come back in order to report on exactly what was going on. and i just want to bring in now my colleague and reporter will hollis myself, and will have been here in southport all day reporting on this story. will, i know both of us have seen this riot taking place from very close up. just tell our viewers what it is that you saw. >> yes. well, sophie, what we've seen over the last two days is an outpouring of grief. >> this is the other side of it. this is an outpouring of anger. we're not far from heart street, which is where the tragic stabbing of three girls that were killed, as well as others who are still in a critical condition, took place. but we know that there are a number of

protests, as well as vigils taking place right now in southport, and this was just a stone's throw away from that attack at saint luke's road . attack at saint luke's road. when we arrived, there were people lining the streets, lots of them with their phones in hand. and when we get got further down to where it was essentially a riot, there were multiple large police vans. one of them was set on fire by groups of what i'd say is probably hundreds of mainly young men, many of them wearing masks, some older men as well. there were journalists down there similar to us, and people were trying to take their phones and their cameras to stop them from filming. what was happening? we saw people throwing bricks at police vans, and as well as dog units, there were obviously police dressed in riot gear, in headgear with riot shields, and some of those police were covered in blood. we've just had a statement from merseyside police. this is the assistant chief constable, alex goss, who says it is sickening to see this happening within a

community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three lives. now what the police say is that at around 745, a large group of people believed to be supporters, and they're very clear in this, believed to be supporters of the english defence league, began to throw items towards a mosque on saint luke's road. that's just where we were, where that riot is taking place. sophie. >> we also, of course , heard >> we also, of course, heard some of the members of the crowd shouting things which i would describe as perhaps racially motivated. would you like to perhaps explain to our viewers what it is that we heard the crowds shouting, yes, well, it seems like a lot of this is motivated by racism , motivated by racism, particularly anti islamic racism, >> from where we were, this riot was taking place right outside of a mosque and an association that works with the mosque says that works with the mosque says that they were hearing phrases

like we're english till i die. we're english till i die. this really is now at boiling point in a community that has faced tragedy over the last few days. it was only an hour or two ago that we were in the town hall, where there was thousands of people laying flowers . now we people laying flowers. now we have certainly hundreds of people throwing bricks and bottles, breaking up walls because of their anger. but the police, as well have said that they think that some of the people that are here rioting in southport tonight are from different areas, not from here. but we also know that some of the local people that we've seen on the streets in the last couple of days are very angry and upset about what has happened, and there's been lots of speculation about who did this, the killing of the three girls and the attack on the local summer club, and the police are saying don't speculate because they are still finding out all of the answers. and what we're seeing here is that anger displaying on the

streets of a town, a seaside town that is here grieving. there are two sides to this. >> i just want to really emphasise here something that merseyside police have said today and that is, as will said, not to speculate. in a statement earlier, they said that there has been rumours online about who the suspect is. they've told us that that identity is incorrect and they've asked people not to speculate and to post on social media. this is something that has been re—emphasised by downing street, because this is something that can often derail and disrupt police investigations. so all of this potential racial, police investigations. so all of this potential racial , the this potential racial, the racial issues that are behind this , police are asking people this, police are asking people to not go along with this because simply they're saying we do not know, or they have not released yet who that suspect is. they're saying that it's that he remains in police custody for questioning. but it's so crucial that we do not speculate at this point about who that person is . now, you can

who that person is. now, you can see here behind me, i think, or you can certainly hear police helicopter that is still flying over the scene. you probably can't see, but there is still the remnants of some smoke in the remnants of some smoke in the air from when the police riot van was set fire to now, whilst we were close to the front of the fray , when police front of the fray, when police took out their riot gear and that that police van, there was a small explosion, as that fire continued to burn, you could see all over the floor the rubble that people had been throwing. so quite terrifying scenes. will i think if you live in this local area, southport is a seaside town. this is a residential area. this is a town that people come to. just to our left is the promenade where the, you know, there's ice cream shops, there's candy floss being sold, there's fish and chips, there's families enjoying their summer holiday and yet less than a mile to our to my right, to your left, there's a riot taking place. how terrifying. >> well, i was remarking to the

people that were with how pretty of a place southport is. it's a beautiful place and it makes sense. why so many people would choose to holiday here. that's a stone's throw away from where people are throwing stones. as we were walking away from the violence and the disorder that we were seeing on the street, we saw people coming out of their homes telling the people that were going towards the violence and the disorder on the street not to come here to turn around. they were swearing at them , they were swearing at them, telling them to go away, essentially in a much more curse, curse, curse words than that. and people here don't want this in their community. a lot of the people that were lining the streets were upset about what was happening, but we know on the other side, there is undoubtedly people from this community that were upset that are angry. but merseyside police say that many people who they think were involved in what we're describing as a riot here in southport were not from the

local area that they've come from, maybe neighbouring places because they've seen what's happened, particularly on social media speculation, the world that we live in now, everything is a lot more instant and people can make their minds up about things very quickly, which is why, particularly for journalists, we have to be so certain with what we're saying is the fact that helicopter is going back over again. we can remark on the fact that only a couple of days, the helicopters going over southport were helicopters for the hospitals, for the ambulance services, taking young children who had been attacked to hospital here in merseyside but also in manchester. that police helicopter is here for a very different reason, and they're probably trying to track the riot and the disorder which we saw drifting off into the distance. >> well, thank you so much for joining us. truly terrifying scenes here in southport. we have both been here today and it seems a real change in

atmosphere from from heartbreak and from condolences to now anger and asking exactly what and why this has happened in this small seaside town . this small seaside town. >> my thanks to sophie reaper and will hollis. we're going to stay on this story. we've torn up the running order tonight. this is a massively important story. it follows a tragedy yesterday, three young girls killed in cold blood at a dance class. we're going to be speaking to a cop about what happened and about the

next. welcome back to the show . now welcome back to the show. now there is growing anger in southport. violence and actually broad disorder and chaos as the police are dealing with violent scenes. people are angrily responding, of course, to the murder in cold blood of three young children at a dance class in southport yesterday. of course, we know nothing of this suspected suspect and their origins or their nationality, but this is a major police incident. now let's get reaction from former detective chief superintendent kevin hurley . superintendent kevin hurley. kevin, first of all, what do you make of the scenes playing out this evening in southport? the anger and the violence? >> well, i mean, it's really unfortunate because the people who are now starting getting stoned and bricked and having their police vehicles set on fire are the very people who were unarmed, took on a person

who stabbed and killed those three kids. >> so what's the shame about this? is that the senior police leadership and local politicians have both failed to manage the narrative of public anger in the in that area. of course, trying to step away from saying anything that could in any way cause people to say they've they've, criticised any particular group. yeah. and then secondly, what we're looking at now is there's still no senior leadership. and i'm talking about sort of superintendent level out on the ground trying to look at that , because there's to look at that, because there's not much bricking going on, actually. i can see an opportunity for a superintendent level person, if he or she were to pick up a loudhailer and start to talk with the crowd and actually say, we share your angst with this, we're the ones who actually came to the rescue. well, let's not make this

situation worse. using those kind of phrases , you may be able kind of phrases, you may be able to talk this situation down. i've done it personally myself in much worse situations like that. if you get out there and talk to them, a lone person in front of the shields and with a loud hailer being reasonable and trying to seek empathy. you may even stop this getting worse. i don't think this will get particularly worse now, because the population of southport are, broadly speaking, reasonably well advantaged in society relative to other areas, and it's relatively hom*ogeneous , and it's relatively hom*ogeneous, and if you look at these people, you know, there, you know, there's not that many, to use the vernacular, really kicking off. i blame this partly on the senior police leadership, not managing the narrative as well as the politicians. people up there are not stupid. they have been told what the attacker looks like from people who were there at the scene. so if that

person is a person from an ethnic minority, police need to give that ground. if that person is, shall we say, from, a religion that is associated with acts of great violence, then they need to be honest about that, and that's likely to stop people feeling like you're trying to manage their angst and their emotions. i don't think they would be kicking off if they would be kicking off if they had a bit more information. i think the police are senior leadership, and senior politicians need to make some decisions about sharing a bit more. of course, they can't say the name of the guy because of his alleged age, but they can probably give up a bit more and say he's from wales now. >> this incident yesterday, this violent assault, this awful triple murder, is not considered by the police to be a terror related act. the violence is never justified, is it? kevin hurley? but is the public anger

justified ? justified? >> well, i mean, first off, i'm not sure that they're saying it's not considered to be a terrorist related act. i think they were being they were being slightly how can i put it circ*mspect , how they said that circ*mspect, how they said that we don't suspect this is terrorist , when of course, what terrorist, when of course, what we do know is that they were offered the assistance of the northwest regional counter—terrori st northwest regional counter—terrorist police unit. yeah, that wouldn't have happened if there was. how can i put it a little? wasn't a little bit of smoke there, and i think they needed to manage that narrative better. and i still think they need to. i also understand why a lot of these people are angry, to be honest, ihave people are angry, to be honest, i have a sense of anger about what's happened, and i'm. it's not even my town. but what concerns me is, again, senior police leadership are not managing this in terms of the narrative , and they're not narrative, and they're not managing what's going on right now , but that essentially now, but that essentially ordinary police officers,

because these ones you're seeing here are not full time public order officers, or they may have arrived. now, some of them in black, you'll see them in black suits. most of them are just normal cops where they brought along their emergency vans. you can even see some of them handing out helmets and shields. most of them haven't got the stuff, and fortunately it's calm, and i think most people realise it's not the police's fault, but i think senior police leadership should be out on the ground right now with a loudhailer talking to people. >> but kevin, when you talk about managing the narrative, does that involve the cops saying, look, this person, this suspect is not from an ethnic minority or is not of a certain religion, and is this sort of managing the narrative about giving the public more information about the person that allegedly did this ? that allegedly did this? >> yes, it's exactly the point. they should be clear, about his his background , because everyone his background, because everyone is guessing here and i'm guessing everyone's guessing what they think has happened .

what they think has happened. >> are the public being treated like children? kevin hurley , to like children? kevin hurley, to some extent, yes. >> to some extent, yes. i think they're they're trying to manage they're they're trying to manage the public. they're trying to manage what what they they know. and a lot of those people there will have seen the attacker. let's be clear , people have let's be clear, people have already described him and they will know if he's said certain words or hasn't said certain words. and police should be clear about that because it's not going to make this any better . better. >> do you suspect kevin? do you suspect that? of course, we wholeheartedly condemn these appalling scenes of violence. it's deeply troubling . it's it's deeply troubling. it's wrong and it's counterproductive. but in terms of the police's management of this, this trouble that's playing out is political correctness at play, do you think? >> no. i think what it is the police there aren't aren't the properly equipped , trained riot properly equipped, trained riot pubuc properly equipped, trained riot public order type police. you can see they've got no helmets,

no visors. there's probably been a decision made at some stage by someone in the chain saying, don't go out in helmets and you know, fine. risk the police officers eyesight, their teeth , officers eyesight, their teeth, their cheekbones and so on. that's what they're thinking. completely unacceptable. what we need. look at this. you'll see footage there of a police officer, kevin , getting into his officer, kevin, getting into his van with what looks like a serious gash on his head. >> there he is. he's got a dressing on his head. he's received a wound to his head. this is pretty serious. violence, isn't it? >> well, i'd say it's moving that way, but i hope it won't go that way, but i hope it won't go that way. what i'm saying is, let's get a senior officer. yeah, clearly one with some presence a bit of empathy and a bit of bottle to go out there and start to talk to the crowd on his own and push the officers back and initially talk to the loudhailer and try and deal with some of that sense of angst, because it may work, because i know it does . because i've done know it does. because i've done it in worse situations.

>> kevin hurley kevin hurley just to reiterate our condemnation of this violence. but let me ask you, where does this anger come from? i mean, clearly on a human level, there is fury about what happened to those three little girls. we share in that anger. others injured. but but what is it playing out in the minds of those people who are now essentially, you know, playing out violence and attacking police officers and causing disruption? >> well, i think i think they they are they feel they're getting a lack of information and they are putting two and two together and maybe getting four, or maybe they're not, because the perception out there amongst much of the public and i'm watching it, is that they think that this is a person potentially of somali or east african heritage. they think that they're a person of muslim background, and so that needs to be managed. and if they are indeed both of those, then they

need to have a better narrative. and so we regard this one as a loner, a very sad case. there's an issue going on here. yes. we are working with the muslim community. we are working with the prevent , program to try and the prevent, program to try and stop this kind of thing going on. but it is what it is indeed, >> we've seen, haven't we, violent scenes at manchester airport. we've also seen violent riots at in leeds, of course, following an attempt to rehome certain children within one particular family address. those riots saw a bus set on fire and a police car overturned, is britain in the grip of lawlessness at the moment? kevin >> well, let me just finish that. and we've seen an army officer stabbed repeatedly in the back. yeah, by someone as well in the last couple of days. so i think what we've got happening here is a narrative is developing amongst lots of people about there is a problem .

people about there is a problem. we are under threat from the religion, which you're not allowed to talk about unless you are accused of islamophobia. now there there may well, there is a problem that people who follow that religion, lots of them do carry out, not lots, but a good number have carried out terrorist offences within the uk. people are not fools. if this is what's happened again then that needs to be accepted and the narrative needs to be managed. and of course we can't. >> we can't speculate. >> we can't speculate. >> kevin, this is at the moment we don't know about the suspect. we don't have the details. but but go on. >> but no, we can't. but if that is not the case, then police need to come out full on and say this person is not from , is not this person is not from, is not a muslim. yeah, they need to say , a muslim. yeah, they need to say, you know, they need to come out and say that because otherwise people are going to speculate, and i'm not saying it's wrong or right, but what i'm saying is people have seen a narrative twist twisted by a pakistani

heritage lawyer, where police officers were battered at an airport where people in the north—west will go on their holidays. so that was close to home. they've seen an army officer stabbed in the in the back at the same time they've seen a leading, muslim islamist extremist , jailed for life , the extremist, jailed for life, the other day, as well as we've also seen people of apparently pakistani heritage chasing the police away in leeds and setting fire to a bus . so i'm just fire to a bus. so i'm just telling you how people see it out there. i'm not saying i necessarily see it that way or not. therefore, the police need to be sensitive not only to the needs of certain ethnic minority groups, but to the needs of all of the british public. >> well, indeed. and we've seen violence. >> we've seen hindus, sikhs, hindus, buddhists, they're all concerned at what they're seeing. >> most definitely kevin hurley , >> most definitely kevin hurley, thank you so much for joining us. we'll catch up soon. retired

police officer kevin hurley, a top detective there, sharing his views while more on these violent scenes scenes playing out southport in just a couple of

>> imagine if you have. >> imagine if you have. >> welcome back to the show. angry clashes and violence in southport following the tragic murder of three young girls at a dance class yesterday. a police van has been set alight with

bottles and wheelie bins thrown at officers. we've seen footage of one particular male police officer getting into a van with what looked like a serious gash to his head, a bit of a head injury suffered there by that officer. as you can see, if you're watching our television output. officers say items were thrown towards a local mosque in scenes that they say are sickening to see within a community that has been devastated by the tragic loss of three young lives. that's a statement from the local constabulary. earlier, hundreds gathered for a vigil to remember the three killed and seven injured at a taylor swift themed dance class on monday. we've got the names now of the three little girls baby elsie and alice, who were six, seven and nine respectively. alice, who passed away earlier today, all killed in the attack. five children and two adults still in a critical condition. a 17 year a critical condition. a17 year old male has been arrested on

suspicion of murder. that person remains in custody. we don't know about their ethnicity, their religion, their culture, which is why it's inappropriate to speculate at this point. but angry scenes in southport. to speculate at this point. but angry scenes in southport . let's angry scenes in southport. let's get reaction from my top pundits this evening. we have columnist and broadcaster esther krakue, former special adviser to margaret thatcher, broadcaster and writer nigel gardner, and presenter and author amy nicole turner. it's difficult for us to talk about this story without more information. esther, a lot of anger in southport. the violence is not justified. is the anger. >> it is in. of course it's justified because the murder of innocent children is always going to cause anger, of course, but i think there's something more insidious happening here. there are many communities in this country that have almost been primed to think the worst of other communities , and i of other communities, and i think that's deeply unhelpful. like you said, we don't know anything about this. the person in custody who committed these,

who is alleged to have committed these crimes, we don't know his race or his religion. we don't know anything. it's just a 17 year old, person. and we know this person is under the age of 18. so legally there will probably be some restrictions about advertising, or just even revealing his name or whatever. i don't i personally don't agree with the decision to not name this person or give us the pubuc this person or give us the public any details, because i think that's actually something that's fuelling the misinformation and the anger, because people that are primed to think the worst of, you know, in this case, it looks like muslims because they're attacking a mosque, a mosque, or, you know, people from a of a foreign background. it just feels conspiracies that, that give them the kind of energy to do this. and i think that's quite unhelpful. i think if the police put in as much energy in protecting the public as they do trying to manage the public's feelings by trying to withhold this information effectively, effectively coddle the public, we'd be in a much better place. i don't think this is the typical knife crime that you see, obviously at knife crime that you see in many cities around the uk are usually in a city gang based violence amongst young people. this is a lone

single person that the police are not treating us as a terrorist attack that went to attack children, young girls. i mean, you could arguably say this is more about violence against women and girls than actual knife crime, although obviously a knife was used in this incident. >> indeed, nigel, the reaction to the tragic triple murder that happened yesterday demonstrates and illustrates major tensions in this country between various ethnic groups . ethnic groups. >> well, firstly, of course, this was an act of savagery and barbarism. sheer evil . and barbarism. sheer evil. and naturally there's a great deal of anger over this. but of course, violence against the police, destruction of property are completely unacceptable, i think at the same time , there think at the same time, there needs to be transparency and accountability from authorities here starting at the very top with the prime minister. this is this is a major incident here, and so far there has been a complete lack of detailed information coming from, from the authorities. and hence you're seeing this kind of anger on the streets of, of southport.

and there should be full transparency with regard to who carried this out. the background , carried this out. the background, all of this needs to be fully i think, divulged to the public. and there should be some kind of official commission of inquiry to action what? what happened, what allowed this to happen? because this is a horrific act of tremendous evil here in the united kingdom. it must never be allowed to happen again. and we do need to see a better response from the government, from the authorities and full transparency and accountability with regard to what happened. >> indeed , this is sir keir >> indeed, this is sir keir starmer's first major political headache, this incident, isn't it, amy, i think you have to remember that we're talking about a 17 year old. >> so within the law , the police >> so within the law, the police cannot disclose the identity of the 17 year old. yes, they can put in a request to the court and maybe we will find out in a few days time. but i think that community that we've seen tonight, they're hurting and

they're hurting for good reason. they've been left traumatised by this. yeah, it's completely right. it's absolute barbarism. you can't think of anything worse. it's unimaginable. but they searching for an explanation and they think they found one because of all the all the nonsense that's been spun online, there's been accounts made of news channels that don't exist, which has been spinning names that translate to something that means nothing. and the truth is that there isn't going to be an explanation, because whoever this person is, whatever you find out about this person, they don't represent any community. they represent just themselves and just their actions, which are obviously unimaginably unacceptable. so i don't know what you think you're going to get by knowing any more about this person's identity. what what could we possibly change in our reaction? are we going to then direct anger at that particular community? >> well, perhaps accountability at that particular accountability . accountability. >> so people would be so, so this person would, would represent would be on behalf of a community just by being who they are.

>> if it followed, if it followed a pattern of islamic violence for example, then that's something that would have to be addressed. so it would be appropriate for the 3 million muslims in the uk to take the brunt for one person's actions. >> who's a 17 year old boy? >> who's a 17 year old boy? >> well, of course. >> well, of course. >> are you are you already offering. >> that's just one. that's just one possible example. i mean, i think for many people we all remember the abdul ezedi case, right? this man was clearly unvetted shouldn't have been in the uk, had been rejected many times. many questions were asked about why he wasn't removed. again, people that are primed want to distrust the authorities because they think they're incompetent and keeping people that shouldn't be in the uk out and also feel like their voices aren't being heard. they are easy fodder for misinformation onune easy fodder for misinformation online of course, it's not acceptable to attack a mosque or to think that whoever this person is and whatever background he is, he's representative of his entire community. that's first of all, insane. that's what people are doing. but yes, but the point here is what's happening. the reason why this is happening is because of people feeling one like they don't. they can't trust the authorities to keep the people who shouldn't be in the people who shouldn't be in the uk out of the uk. but

secondly, they feel like their concerns are not being heard. there is a huge gap between people who live in westminster, who control the bodies of basically our ruling elite and people who live in southport. i mean, there are many arguments to say move, let's say the house of lords or even the house of commons to places like southport or york or whatever. so you can see how these people live. so when you ignore their concerns, it's far more it's far more difficult to do, actually, because you're actually living within those communities. that's a bit of a tangent, but the point here is that there are reasons why communities have been primed to look upon other groups of people with suspicion, and i think that needs to be addressed. >> i think communities have been primed to certainly blame other people, rather than the government that has stripped pubuc government that has stripped public services, that has no accountability when it comes to mental health, racist and hateful and bigoted. but it is the is it not the oldest political trick in the book to blame, to blame other people? to blame, to blame other people? to blame foreigners rather than take accountability contextually? >> because whenever we i hate the fact that we denigrate certain people. and yes, there are racists in the uk. of course, but i always say draw

parallels to south korea or japan or saudi arabia or jamaica or any other country on earth. if you were talking to locals from those countries that had concerns about people or communities that are living parallel lives to, to the main population or are coming from abroad and settling within their communities and committing acts that are unacceptable. how do you think those people react? and do you think a jamaican for instance, will tolerate being called racist by a jamaican government? of course not. but for some reason that's acceptable here in the uk. and these are the kinds of conversations that we should have.i conversations that we should have. i think the person's identity that the person who killed these children should have been revealed, because if the government of the of public bodies have erred by, let's say, not, making sure this person shouldn't have been, have one had access to a gun or a knife, or had been on the streets? they should take ownership. they should take ownership. they should take ownership. they should take accountability. the first way to actually get the public's trust is to actually be open and accountable. >> now we're talking about 17 year old boy, i think. >> i think excellent points that you've made there. and it's perfectly legitimate to, to ask questions about the origin of where the killer came from , the

where the killer came from, the family, this raises big questions. we simply do not have the full facts at the moment, but it raises questions about, the presence of asylum seekers in the united kingdom. the scale of that presence, how asylum seekers are allowed into the country. and i think i think that, yes, whether integrated, it raises major. >> we don't allow asylum seekers hardly into this country. >> it, of course , many acts of >> it, of course, many acts of terror, many acts of terror happen from from home—grown brits. yeah. i mean, so yes , brits. yeah. i mean, so yes, that's that's that's true. but, i do think we have to be looking at the background of the killer so that you can cast aspersions about massive groups of people. >> no, i'm not saying that. that's what you just said, but it is perfectly legitimate to ask about the origin and whether this is related to policies of mass migration into the united kingdom. >> that's a perfectly legitimate, legitimate question. >> contextualise what he said. >> contextualise what he said. >> just on just on the asylum, if you can, since 1997, 1 in 5

terror. >> people that have been arrested for terror offences have been of asylum backgrounds. that's that's hard data that you can find anywhere on the internet. i think just to buttress the point, it's perfectly legitimate to ask whether the strategy we have around asylum in this country is fit for purpose and whether it's actually. >> okay, okay, okay. well, let me let me step in here because the truth is we are discussing issues around culture, certain religions, asylum, but actually we don't have any such information regarding the individual involved. >> the suspect who is now in police custody. but next up, we'll be asking, does this reflect a wider breakdown in law and order in this we'll that with a top westminster

next. please leave the scenes of violent disorder are playing out in southport just over 24 hours since the brutal murder of three young girls at a taylor swift

themed dance class. the prime minister was heckled by locals when he laid some flowers at the scene. let's get reaction from former political editor at lbc, theo usherwood, who joins me in the studio . theo, this is the the studio. theo, this is the first major political headache for the prime minister, keir starmer, isn't it? >> it's very concerning. >> it's very concerning. >> mark, and i would say that starmer yvette cooper they haven't been on top of this because i was speaking to somebody very senior in the in the labour party before the election who was telling me that one of his big concerns was that there wasn't a plan within the labour manifesto for community cohesion , whether what we've cohesion, whether what we've seen in southport tonight , seen in southport tonight, frightening scenes and whether what we're seeing in in greater manchester following what happened at the airport is very, very worrying as well. and leeds as well. and what we, what we, what the government needs to do

very quickly is to come up with a plan to bring people together. yeah, i'm not somebody and i'd never be i'd never advocate the idea of pulling communities apart, but we need to find a way of trying to bring people together. and the government doesn't have a plan for this. it's talked about the economy. it's talked about the economy. it's talking about how to save £22 billion. but this is the real issue. what's happening in the north of england right now is scary. it's frightening . and is scary. it's frightening. and there's a community up there that's hurting and whether that be what in the wake of what happenedin be what in the wake of what happened in manchester or in the wake of what happened in southport, and the government really needs to get a grip of this really quickly, because when you're dealing with riots like this, they're contagious. we saw that back in, you know, 13 years ago with the riots across the country, especially when you have hot weather and they can spread very, very quickly. and now we have the added pressures of social media as well, which are only act as an accelerant for this kind of this kind of disorder. >> most definitely. now we have no details of this suspect except that they are male and 17, in police custody. it's wrong to speculate about the origins of that person. their

religion, their background, you name it, because we just don't know . which is why the violence know. which is why the violence is impossible to justify. that's currently playing out. of course, these sorts of riots are never acceptable, but notwithstanding what's happening in southport today and the tragedy of yesterday, britain is facing a crisis of integration and a and a crisis around issues of diversity, isn't it? there's major tension in our society and that's going to dominate the next five years of this labour government. >> there may be a there may be a you could say there's a crisis of integration. i think, i think more needs to be done and people need to face this head on, and we need to do it in a way that, as i said, tries to bring people together and, and, and foster greater understanding. and at the moment there is no plan, there is no vacuum. and to be fair, okay, i've criticised labour with what i was told about, you know, a lack of plan within the labour government or in the prospective labour government before the election. but the tories didn't have a plan for this either. indeed, if you think back to some of the

way ministers behaved in previous, you know, in previous administrations within that tory government, it was pretty despicable with the way that they tried to exacerbate tensions. what we need to be doing, mark, and it's really crucial that this happens is actually, you know, getting into communities , whether it's communities, whether it's council councillor level, whether it's mp level , whether it's mp level, government level, official level, getting in and trying to promote understanding and try and reduce tensions , because and reduce tensions, because when we have these incidents it's no good just stepping back and saying, well, we need an investigation into the particular incident that's happened, namely in this case, the tragic , you know, the tragic the tragic, you know, the tragic stabbing of nine children and you can't gaslight and condemn people who are concerned about parallel communities and parallel communities and parallel societies. you obviously have to condemn the violence, but you have to get into the communities. you have to have the people on the ground to have the people on the ground to speak to people and trying to lay the concerns and where the anger comes from and understand and understand exactly where the anger comes from, because these are, you know, it was senseless what happened yesterday. >> okay, let's get on to a bit of the westminster soap opera

kemi badenoch. of course, tory leadership hopeful is facing bombshell accusations of bullying and traumatising staff as she attempts to become the next tory party leader. earlier, the guardian exclusively dropped at least three officials. sorry, at least three officials. sorry, at least three officials. sorry, at least three officials. found her behaviour so traumatising that they felt they had no other choice but to leave sources claimed. already kemi has hit back, saying let's be clear, these allegations are smears from former staff who i sacked after they were accused of bullying behaviour, lying about other colleagues to cover up their own failures and general gross incompetence. intolerable behaviour is something i would not for . stand she went on to not for. stand she went on to say. the business department has confirmed to the guardian there were no complaints about me and no investigations. it is all utterly false . well, is kemi utterly false. well, is kemi badenoch in trouble? could this impact her campaign to be the next four years? >> there are two ways of looking at this. there's a way of saying, you could say that

conservative mps were thinking that kemi badenoch attracts trouble, that they're only going to they're only going to have more of these types of allegations made against her. if she becomes leader of the conservative party. and then you could say, actually, there may be many conservative members who quite like the idea of having a conservative leader who in a previous guise as a as a government minister, actually took on the blob, the civil servants. exactly. that exactly that. and, you know, it may not be a well received opinion in westminster, but out there amongst those conservative members, they might actually think this is something we quite like most definitely. >> listen, theo, thank you so much for joining >> listen, theo, thank you so much forjoining us. we'll catch much for joining us. we'll catch up soon. in the next hour, we're going to bring you more on those scenes of violence and disorder in southport. of course, it cannot be justified. it's shocking what's happening, but the anger is coming from somewhere at the moment. it's based on speculation and misinformation. we'll bring you more on that and get closer to the truth in the next hour. plus laboun the truth in the next hour. plus labour. roll over to the unions in a political surrender that's

going to cost you and me dearly. i hate to say i told you i'll be tackling labour government and their

next. it's 10:00. next. it's10:00. this is patrick christys tonight with me, mark dolan. i'm with you for the next three nights. tensions boil over in southport as the community struggles to come to terms with the brutal killing of three young girls . killing of three young girls. as disorder hits the streets of southport, we must not forget

the real tragedy. the three children taken from their families at a taylor swift themed dance class. also tonight, three weeks into a labour government and they're already rolling over to the unions . strap yourselves in for unions. strap yourselves in for five years of strike chaos. my verdict on this political surrender, for which you and i will pay the price that's happening in just a moment. i believe that anyone who comes here illegally must be deported within days . it's a here illegally must be deported within days. it's a hard line approach to immigration. the key to winning the tory leadership race. i'll sit down with former conservative mp miriam cates . conservative mp miriam cates. >> plus, football has the power to be the change by building diverse workforces from the inside out. >> does the fa need to push for diversity in choosing future england managers and, as the boss of a nutrition app, claims that britain's obesity crisis

has nothing to do with a lack of self—control, is he right that fat people simply can't help themselves? we'll get stuck into those hot topics as i deliver tomorrow's front pages with my panel of top pundits this evening, social commentator esther krakue, former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner, and bestselling author and broadcaster amy nischelle turner. a busy hour to go. let's get to work . get to work. more on those violent scenes and disorder in southport. plus who's running the country? starmer or the unions? that's . next. >> the top story from the gb newsroom tonight . police have newsroom tonight. police have condemned the disorder, which has broken out in southport in lancashire, where earlier a

vigil was held to remember three little girls who were killed in a multiple knife attack. merseyside police have now issued a dispersal order giving officers the power to stop and for search weapons. that comes after a police van was set on fire and items were thrown at officers with one officer believed to have suffered a broken nose. merseyside police are saying the riot began when a group of people believed to be supporters of the english defence league, threw items at a mosque, adding that six arrests have been made. the assistant chief constable, alex goss, has called the scenes sickening for a community which is already devastated that dispersal order will remain in force until 8 pm. tomorrow night. will remain in force until 8 pm. tomorrow night . well, p.m. tomorrow night. well, earlier on today, the prime minister paid tribute to the victims of the knife attack in southport. he was faced, though some hostile shouts from the crowd as he laid a wreath and stood in silence. some people shouting how many more will the prime minister says it is now

his mission to crack down on knife crime . knife crime. >> i am very worried about high levels of knife crime, and i'm absolutely determined that my government will get to grips with it, but today is not the time for politics. today is the time for politics. today is the time to focus entirely on the families who are going through such pain and grief, and on the wider community and of course, a time to say thank you to those that responded yesterday. >> the prime minister earlier on today. well, the home secretary, yvette cooper, has described tonight's violent scenes in southport as appalling . in the southport as appalling. in the last minute, she released a statement warning those responsible will face the full force of the law. here's what she had to say. a short time ago. >> so appalling to now see those same police facing violent attacks from thugs on the streets who have no respect for a grieving community. it's a total disgrace. frankly. this is a time when everyone should be showing respect for a community

and for the police. >> home secretary speaking a short time ago, well, tonight's disruption in southport broke out less than two hours after the southport community came together to mark a minute's silence to respect the lives lost . those three girls who died lost. those three girls who died in the knife attack, they are seven year old elsie, nine year old alice and six year old bibi, five other children and two adults remain in a critical condition in hospital after what was described as a ferocious attack which took place at a taylor swift themed dance workshop at the start of the school summer holidays. the pop star herself paying tribute, saying she's in shock at the loss of life and horrendous trauma, adding these were just little kids. let's bring you an update on news we shared earlier from ireland . we now know two from ireland. we now know two men have died after a helicopter crashed into a farm building in county westmeath. both were on board the chopper when it came

down this afternoon near the village of killucan. the men , village of killucan. the men, who are understood to be from ireland and eastern europe, were in their 40s. the irish air investigation unit is understood to be looking at what happened . to be looking at what happened. and finally great britain have taken gold in the pool tonight, putting us seventh in the medal table. the british quartette , table. the british quartette, james guy, tom dean, matthew richards and duncan scott led from the start and powered to the top of the podium. the us came in second, winning silver , came in second, winning silver, with australia stealing a bronze. it marks the third time in a row britain has won a medal in a row britain has won a medal in the four by 200 metre relay, after winning first in rio, then tokyo and now paris 2024. those are the latest gb news headlines. i'm back in an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> good evening. the punishment beating of the tories on thursday, the 4th of july has come at a high price. rishi sunak and ex—chancellor jeremy hunt face down the trade unions, which saw the country come closer to balancing the books and taming inflation from over 10% a year ago to 2% now. but unfortunately, in what i fear will become the biggest, i told you so in history. this new labour government, which is just 26 days old, has already rolled over to the union barons inflation busting , unaffordable inflation busting, unaffordable wage demands. rachel reeves complains about a black hole. well, she's creating one here that wouldn't look out of place in star wars. as i've said previously, labour are in no position to stand up to the unions because they are funded by them and they are in no

position to stand up to the pubuc position to stand up to the public sector who are their electoral constituency? the end result is a political surrender which will cost you and me dearly. junior doctors will get an eye—watering 22%, even though most are on track for a big salary anyway. a job for life and a gold plated pension. nurses and teachers will see a boost of 5.5%, double the rate of inflation, with our new chancellor rachel reeves, having noidea chancellor rachel reeves, having no idea how that's going to be paid for . after all, she's only paid for. after all, she's only just found out that the country's broke. have you not heard? i'm very surprised about that, by the way. we're always being told that she worked for the bank of england. has she lost her talent for mathematics? well, let me tell you on this one, her sums don't add up . we one, her sums don't add up. we love the doctors. we love the nurses. we love the teachers. i wish that everyone could get a new pay deal, but we're skint. and until the country lives

within its means, wage restraint is critical. labour's answer is yet more taxes, which will kill economic growth and investment. this comment from political commentator and proponent of something called luxury communism, ash sarkar , is very communism, ash sarkar, is very telling. responding to the junior doctors pay deal, she tweeted strikes work. what can i say ? what can i say? indeed. say? what can i say? indeed. well, i have no words because such a quick acquiescence to the union's demands spells trouble for the next five years. do you want us to think that other sectors won't want a piece of the action? having seen that, and i quote, strikes work. i'm old enough to remember industrial action in the 1980s. it's damaging to the workers involved. it hurts our competitiveness and it impacts consumers. and it destroys the economy. for her, many faults, it was margaret thatcher who

faced down the unions, leading to an economic miracle which saw the emancipation of the british working class and the birth of an aspirational, productive, efficient, dynamic , efficient, dynamic, entrepreneurial wealth, creating nation. but now the unions are back in the driving seat. it feels like the 1970s all over again , but this time without the again, but this time without the bell bottoms. the good music and angel delight for pudding . in angel delight for pudding. in the 1970s, challenging the power of the unions, the tories had a famous election slogan who runs britain? well, at the moment it's not sir keir starmer or this labour government for reaction to that , my top panel reaction to that, my top panel this evening, columnist and broadcaster esther krakue, also former special adviser to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. great to see all three of you. well, who better

to start with? the nile? gardiner. it's important that unions exist, but they're not out of control, which is what happenedin out of control, which is what happened in the 80s and i think is happening again. >> yeah, exactly. mark and great opening remarks there. and i fully agreed, i think with every word there. and already you have keir starmer, the labour government surrendering to the trade unions. it is indeed the 19705 trade unions. it is indeed the 1970s all over, all over again. frankly and you're seeing this you socialist government headed by keir starmer already kowtowing to trade union power. and the unions are already starting to run britain. it's not the labour government in charge, it's actually the trade unions. this is a very dangerous course in the 1970s it led to the bankruptcy of great britain. we could see the same result again thanks to these clueless policies advanced by by keir starmer. well, that's right, this is grovelling to the unions. >> this is a deal with just one union which is the bma, the british medical association, which is a union but not

affiliated to labour. >> right. >> right. >> but other sectors will follow will they not. >> oh absolutely. >> oh absolutely. >> this is just the shape of things to come. you are going to see labour surrendering to union after union. eventually the unions will have full control , unions will have full control, frankly, over britain. more power than keir starmer. and what a catastrophic result that would be. >> well, i think the unions already control this government. what do you think, amy? >> i think that we've just seen five years of strikes from all pubuc five years of strikes from all public sector workers. >> that's right. strikes and no , >> that's right. strikes and no, no yielding to the wishes of just really expensive strikes that worth every penny that also cost billions in agencies. >> what did we have because of the recruitment and retention problems that come from not paying problems that come from not paying people properly? all our doctors leaving to go to australia 1880. teachers leaving to work abroad, over 11%. >> it's now 2% because the last government faced down the unions . government faced down the unions. we also balanced the books. do you know what? >> it's good to work with the

unions. it's good to settle these disputes. it's a good thing that the doctors are paid properly. it's a good thing that they're not still being paid the same as a barista. >> when you take the billions that are going to the junior doctors, which budget does that come out of? >> which budget? what do you mean? >> well, where are you going to get the money from? >> there is so much money. there is so much money. >> is the money. >> is the money. >> we're running a deficit, for example, closing inheritance tax loopholes. 4 billion. >> okay. >> okay. >> so that's going to affect investment and reduce economic growth. >> how do you work that out. >> how do you work that out. >> because the bottom line is it's a loophole steve. >> so people have to be incentivised to break tax law. >> and also your plan changes to inheritance tax will be an absolute drop in the ocean billion. >> this is i think i think again that's that's also it costs money. >> do you know it costs it's so much. >> it's not rocket science to we are to pay for the industrial action as well. being a bit on a tangent and, and i think we're simplifying this. i don't think we should compare the nhs and the bma to other sectors, because i think that's different to hospitality unions and all of that. i think that's completely

different. they're quite frankly, the junior doctors are acting like a cartel now. i don't blame them because of course, if you can argue for more money, you will. but the reality is no one in the private sector can say that because of i've received a 35% pay cut, which is actually not a pay cut. it's just inflation. and therefore you owe me 35% ten years down the line. you can't do that anywhere in the private sector. but the doctors can because we don't have enough of them. and therefore they. >> and why don't we have enough of them? >> so listen, here's here's the point. i think at some point, keir starmer would have been keir starmer would have been keir starmer. government would have been strong armed into some sort of deal with the unions. but now he must he must be honest and say the nhs and the state of emergency, because you cannot have a few people holding the government to ransom and basically indebting the country to the tune of billions, it's completely unsustainable. the reality is this is one of the, the, the problems with a top down, basically socialised healthcare model. there is no competition. if you have doctors saying if you don't pay me this much, you leave, you can't let them leave because we only have them leave because we only have the nhs. you have to have more private involvement because at the end of the day, us talking

about we love the doctors, we love the nurse, that's great. but they're doing a job. we should love the patients. >> i think i would, i would agree, i would agree with you. it wasn't the case of £20 an houn >> no, i think that's absolutely right. you know, socialism never works. and the, the nhs system of course is hugely inefficient. and you have, you know, the government being sort of blackmailed by, by unions here and yes , exactly. this is and yes, exactly. this is unsustainable. it's not good for the british, for the british people here. and this is public money. this is taxpayers money here that that labour is using. eventually they're going to run out of that money because we'll be spending so much money and all the results of having a non—functioning healthcare system, a functioning healthcare system, a functioning healthcare system saves money across the board. >> look, the french, the french have a functioning healthcare system. you don't see their doctors holding the state by the. >> we just had a whole we just had a whole conversation about mental health and mental health. we condemn and everything. >> it's all linked. do you condemn the strikes? >> given that a million appointments were cancelled, which is no doubt going to have led to lost lives? >> no. i condemn poorly paying

doctors with the years and years and years. of course i'm not okay with that, but i'm saying you negotiate strikes, i don't condemn. hang on a minute. do i condemn. hang on a minute. do i condemn the strikes? >> of course i don't millom the strikes appointments. >> i condemn the government for not negotiating like keir starmer has to settle the strike. >> yeah. settle or roll over. >> yeah. settle or roll over. >> listen, folks, by paying doctors properly, we will come back to that. where's the money going to come from? >> coming up? i will bring you a first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. >> plus, does the fa need to push for diversity in choosing future england managers? but next up would a hard line approach to immigration be the key to winning the tory leadership race? robert jenrick thinks so . okay, folks, we'll thinks so. okay, folks, we'll get to that very shortly. it is all about the runners and the riders for the second biggest job in politics. leader of the tory party

next. if you're just joining us, violent scenes of disorder are playing out in southport, just 24 hours after the brutal murder of three young girls at a taylor swift themed dance class . you'll swift themed dance class. you'll see there a vehicle on fire at one particular male police officer got into his van with what looked like a severe head injury, some sort of gash to his head, so there is anger. the police are handling the situation, bricks are being thrown and a local mosque has been attacked. this violence has

got to be condemned in the most, significant and robust way. and those are the words of the home secretary, yvette cooper, the violence can't be justified because we still know so little about the alleged attacker, only that they are male and 17 years of age. but clearly there is anger about what happened yesterday. that's understandable. the violence is not. let's get reaction now from former conservative mp miriam cates. miriam, first of all, your reaction to the scenes currently playing out in southport? >> it looks extremely concerning. i mean, i don't know what the direct cause is yet. i don't think that's been established. i've seen rumours on twitter, but i haven't seen anything concrete. but clearly there's a very febrile atmosphere in the country at the moment. these are not the first riots we've seen just in the last few weeks. we've had, rochdale, harehills and of course since last october we've had weekly protests on the

streets of london. and it's a very concerning time. and a lot of these riots seem to have different causes, but deep down, there are clearly some cultural tensions that have have come upon this country. and it's very concerning indeed. >> is this a crisis for britain's multicultural society? i'm not talking specifically about what happened in southport yesterday, because we don't have the details or the anger today, but there is general anger within our communities around tensions regarding parallel communities and people living parallel lives . parallel lives. >> yes, i think that's very fair. and i think in just a generation we've gone from a pretty hom*ogenous monoculture in britain. i suppose . yes, with britain. i suppose. yes, with with some diversity, but with a kind of principle culture. and now we do have multiculturalism, and there may be benefits to that, but there are also, some quite severe tensions that can be built up. and i think we pretended or certainly liberals have pretended for a long time that all cultures can live side by side. well, they can't. i

mean, that just isn't true. not all cultures can integrate. not all cultures can integrate. not all cultures can integrate. not all cultures do integrate. and of course, there will be tensions. when they don't. so as i said, i don't know the direct cause of these riots. no violence like this can ever be justified . but it does point to justified. but it does point to an increasingly febrile atmosphere here in britain. and we're seeing similar things in france, so i do think it's very worrying . and i think the worrying. and i think the authorities are going to face very tough questions because of course, you can be very heavy handed, in situations like this, but that doesn't actually solve the underlying problems. and those are perhaps the kind of things that politicians need to be thinking about. >> well, indeed. >> well, indeed. >> you know, southport to one side, all of our communities need to follow the rule of law. and british values. miriam, let's get to a much jollier subject. the tory leadership at the candidates are now confirmed, with james cleverly robert jenrick tom tugendhat, mel stride priti patel and kemi badenoch all throwing their hats into the ring. and former immigration minister robert jenrick has set out his stall early by promising to take a

hard line approach to legal and illegal immigration. >> when i was for minister immigration, i saw dangerous people coming into our country. i saw us unable to deport them . i saw us unable to deport them. i saw us unable to deport them. i saw us unable to deport them. i saw hundreds of thousands of people. we frankly didn't need coming in legally. but our politics was unable or unwilling to deliver what was needed. the new government aren't going to fix things . they have too many fix things. they have too many delusions. i believe that anyone who comes here illegally must be deported within days. i believe that ending mass migration won't be plain sailing, but we must do it . it. >> so, miriam, is immigration the defining issue facing the next tory leader ? i think it's next tory leader? i think it's certainly one of them. >> and the reason for that is it was the issue that came up most on the doorstep as the source of people's betrayal, of trust, i suppose. so on the economy , on suppose. so on the economy, on the nhs. yes, people had concerns, but they recognised that, events like covid had had

a severe impact on the economy and the nhs, and actually no government could have smoothed that over completely. but i think when it comes to immigration, people did just see it as a direct betrayal of trust. they voted for lower immigration and they got much higher immigration, and whether that was a mistake or deliberate on the part of the government doesn't really matter. it was a betrayal of trust. so i do think that in terms of winning back people's trust, it is the number one issue. now, obviously in opposition, there's nothing that the conservatives can actually do about it. develop policy. we can commit to doing things like leaving the echr. but of course it's not possible for any of the opposition to prove themselves in the way that you can in government. so it's a difficult task. but i do think of all the candidates and they all have strengths, don't get me wrong. but of all the candidates i do think robert jenrick has the most understanding. having been in the home office of what's gone wrong and what technically needs to be done to fix it. so i do think he has a lot of very relevant things to say on that issue. >> is kemi badenoch a bully and has she ever shouted at you?

>> no. and no. i think she's absolutely brilliant, she certainly knows how to, conduct herself in an argument. we've seen her, in select committees and things like that. not allowing people to get away with saying things that aren't true or making allegations. and i think that fighting spirit, that feistiness is certainly would be brilliant in taking the fight to laboun brilliant in taking the fight to labour, and too often i think these days people who don't like, being criticised or who don't like someone calling them out for behaviour decide that that's bullying, when actually it's just the normal everyday thing of life that you just have to get on with. so of course she is the favourite, unfortunately that means that people are going to try and take you out. that does seem to be happening. but no, i think she's always certainly, from what i've seen, conducted herself very professionally. yes. she's feisty, but she never crosses line. >> there you go. well, kemi badenoch there, responding to allegations published in the guardian about bullying behaviour whilst she was

business secretary. miriam, great to see you and loved having you on the channel as a brand new gb news presenter. are you enjoying life in the real world? >> you know i am and you know of course there are bits about parliament that i'll miss and being an mp and it's incredible job and such a privilege. but it's also completely overwhelming in the terms the way it takes over your life , so way it takes over your life, so it is nice to have a little bit more of a slower pace of life and a little bit more choice about how i spend my time. so yes, i'm enjoying that freedom while i look forward to bumping into you in the gb news canteen very soon, my thanks to miriam cates there. >> former, former tory politician, mp and of course current gb news star. lots more to come , including tomorrow's to come, including tomorrow's papers. more on the violence in southport. plus, how about this do the fa need to push for diversity in choosing next england manager? we'll discuss

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next. welcome back. it's time now for tomorrow's news tonight in our press pack , we start with the press pack, we start with the metro newspaper holiday club stabbing victims. our little innocence. families of three girls knifed to death at a houday girls knifed to death at a holiday kids club have paid tribute to them as it emerged two women were critically injured, saving 16 more. the i now no words can describe our devastation. families pay tribute to the three girls killed in southport's mass stabbing, bbc six, el—sisi seven, and alice, age nine. of course, alice passed away earlier today. guardian you can't help but cry. hundreds pay tribute to stabbing victims and kemi badenoch traumatised and bullied senior staff, say the guardian in a story that kemi badenoch has denied israel

targets hezbollah commander in beirut. it's the other story daily mail , beirut. it's the other story daily mail, southport stabbing horror alice, age nine, elsie , horror alice, age nine, elsie, age seven. bebe, aged six, faces of the innocent little taylor swift fans killed in cold blood by a despicable human being. we're going to get reaction from my top press pack this evening. we've got columnist and broadcaster esther krakue, former special adviser to margaret thatcher, flown in from the united states to be with us. nile gardiner and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. well, i'm afraid more scenes of disorder. essex police launched a dispersal zone in southend earlier this evening after reports hundreds of people have flocked to the city for a so—called beach party advertised on tiktok . there have also been on tiktok. there have also been reports of young people running around with enormous knives. footage from social media shows

two people running around with large knives, multiple police, the essex police helicopter and ambulance crews have also been in the centre of the town this evening, dealing with the incident. videos on social media also show a large crowd running away from the seafront en masse and heading towards the high street . now six people have been street. now six people have been arrested so we can't discuss the specifics of this shocking footage, but this really looks, doesn't it, amy, to be lawless britain? >> it does all i can think is, you know, we've been through a lot as a country with brexit we had covid. are you blaming are blaming brexit? >> i didn't hear that. well you didn't let me finish machetes because if you if you think back to that time, it was incredibly divisive . divisive. >> referendums bring out the extremes. they bring out divisions. do you think that lad with machete, is he a remainer? the whole point is let amy make her point. >> rewind lawless britain start know brexit, go well. okay. >> what's your explanation?

>> what's your explanation? >> no no no just just it's not. no. >> are you blaming knife crime on brexit? >> i'm i'm saying that there is obviously something that has led to the behaviour we're seeing now. i would say it is brexit followed by covid, followed by being absolutely broke and having a public services trashed. >> how has brexit caused people to go around with machetes? >> as you'll see, as you'll see, as you'll see, there was a little stepping stones, wasn't there ? but brexit divided us. it there? but brexit divided us. it put us against each other. that's sowed the seeds of division. >> the people with machetes are they remainers? i would say lib dem voters. do you think i know? >> you think it's all a big, jolly and silly? well, i think it was a starting point probably ever heard in all my so you don't think brexit was divisive? >> i don't think brexit has caused people to go around with machete. >> but as i said, brexit, pandemic, public services. so what do you think? >> it is a new nadir for brexit. what do you think it is then? what do you think it is then? what do you think? >> i think it's i think it's poverty, inequality. i think it's young people without a stake in society. i think it's

gangs. i think it's drug abuse and the drug industry, and i think it's also woke policing. there you go. >> woke policing. yeah. i think that nonsense thing i've heard spending money on rainbow flags for their cars and visiting people in their houses for an unkind facebook post that is woke derangement syndrome. >> well, i don't think it's deranged. i think it's rational. >> respond esther. >> respond esther. >> it's all yours. yeah, do your worst and then. and then, niles. >> ready? okay. i'm just gonna pretend like i didn't hear the last 90s of conversation that just happened. so knife crime in the uk. clearly, what we're doing is not working, because over the last ten years, knife crime incidents have gone up by 78%. the policing side of the issue, while not straightforward, is a bit more obvious, which is increased stop and search actually penalise people that are carrying knives . people that are carrying knives. find a way to make manufacturers of these horrible ghost like zombie knives and all of that have some sort of tracking system. obviously you can't do that with kitchen knives and tools for workmen, but you can do that for the kinds of cutlasses and instruments that these young people are choosing to carry. they're not carrying

kitchen knives. surprisingly, they're carrying machetes and zombie knives. so there's that. but on the society front, because society does have a role to play here, it's not all on the government or the police. correct. we need to be questioning the culture and the types of homes the households that are producing, young people that are producing, young people that think it's acceptable to roam our streets, to terrorise the british public with these types of knives. and unfortunately, that's a very uncomfortable situation because the kinds of people that you're seeing carrying knives, engaging in knife crime, going to prison, mainly are not privately educated public school boys from chelsea, right. they're usually ethnic minority, predominantly males under 25 that grew up in single parent, predominantly single parent, predominantly single mother led homes. and thatis single mother led homes. and that is the reason why we need to get to grips with this, because we are talking about effectively an underclass of britain that are obviously socioeconomically deprived, but also culturally are not do not feel like they live in a in a country that they have a stake in. they're, they're engrossed in. they're, they're engrossed in a culture that thinks it's acceptable to be walking around with knives. some of them use it as a protection because they feel like if they don't have it,

they can't protect themselves from other knife carrying people, which increases the likelihood of knife crime. it's absurd. >> these young people don't have a stake in our society, and they don't have british values, and they are british, but they don't share in british values. they have no respect for the rule of law. niall. >> yeah, exactly. and i must respond to, to the comments earlier about brexit because i think that's straight out of the twilight zone, really . twilight zone, really. >> it's interesting though, because all of you said that it's about having a stake in society and having opportunities. >> brexit has removed a lot of those brexit okay, does not cause gangs of marauding thugs and hooligans, but just to be honest, that's not what i said. and you know, that's not what i said. >> you imply that really helped. >> you imply that really helped. >> you imply that really helped. >> you know, economy has outperformed the eurozone since brexit. so if anything, i don't need your help. >> i just have to sit on this sofa week in, week out to see how much brexit has divided us. >> brexit's actually being being a great breakfast. brexit's been a great breakfast. brexit's been a great breakfast. brexit's been a great blessing for britain and let me just say with with these hooligans, thugs on the streets, they need to be serving long

sentences in jail. right? okay. we need to be locking these people up for very long periods. >> going to need a lot of prisons. >> need more. more prisons, more police and of the woke policing on the streets. and we need to see real strong law and order in place to deal with increasing lawlessness. and also we need an education system whereby, you know, people in schools are actually taught british values , actually taught british values, respect for british culture, heritage, history and tradition. i mean, they should they should love, love their nation. and i think what we are seeing this this , this lawlessness as a this, this lawlessness as a result of decades of socialist style thinking where people view themselves as, as victims. and we do need to see, real, you know , really strong policing, know, really strong policing, strong sentences. we need to lock up these hooligans. >> i think young people are very long, period. >> they've been through so much they will never be enough police to police poorly raised children who have now become adults .

who have now become adults. >> that's just the reality. unfortunately. you have to put the onus on the households that are producing these young people with these perverse values. that is the point. what types of households are producing the kinds of young people that think it's acceptable to walk around with zombie knives, to potentially terrorise themselves, the public or members of their gangs or whatever, that's the issue. you can teach british values as much as you want in schools. these people are living within a subculture that are far removed, not just from british values, but within the communities that they're growing up in. there's a bigger issue and there's a bigger issue and there's a bigger conversation to be had here. and unfortunately, we're not even we're not even like sort of scratching the surface because we can't even get to gfips because we can't even get to grips with the fact that people are flagrantly carrying knives on the back of buses in places like brighton. i mean, they just they don't care. they're not scared at all. it's so brazen andifs scared at all. it's so brazen and it's so shameless. >> well, i don't know if you've got that footage, matthew and harry, but let's see if we can get that up, because that was footage of a youngster on the back of a bus holding an

enormous knife. >> again, an everyday scene in broken britain. amy we disagree over the origins of this and the cause, but what is the solution? >> completely misrepresented what i was saying. but okay. carry on. >> well, i think just saying brexit was absurd, but you're entitled to your view, what is the answer to knife crime? how do we fix it? >> well, you could start by recruiting more police officers at the last government. cut, cut, cut cut cut. i think you could find a youth services. the last government. >> i think that's a fair point, >> i think that's a fair point, >> and you could, i don't know, what do you think i could completely given up on this conversation. >> we should be locking them up. >> we should be locking them up. >> have you gone on strike? >> have you gone on strike? >> just like the junior doctors. i'll give you an extra 20% to keep talking. paid for by rachel reeves. >> we've got to make them pay. pay a penalty for. for this kind of crime. they they get away with it. >> the thing is, i don't think. >> the thing is, i don't think. >> i don't think we're going to do any footage. >> take a look at this. and this has become the norm. now this is britain in 2024. >> did he get that? >> did he get that? >> it's not even a story. i mean a on the back of a bus which is illegal wielding a knife at 20 years ago. nigel, there would

have been a manhunt for this quy- have been a manhunt for this guy. now it's just a viral video. >> this should be ten years in jail for that, right? >> yeah, ten years. >> yeah, ten years. >> but what about preventative measures? >> well, like inventive measures which have been cut because apparently it's racist. i mean, even though every time stop and search is done 1 in 5 times or1 search is done 1 in 5 times oh in 5 times, stop and search is done, is it racist? >> is it racist? >> is it racist? >> well, no, because the thing is police, then all policing is racist because police work with profiles. so if you say someone's committed a crime and they were six foot tall, white male and they need to be stopped and searched, no one has anything to say. but when you when it's in communities with large groups of ethnic minorities, then suddenly it's horrible. i'm not saying that that policing is done has been done perfectly, or there hasn't been a breakdown of trust with with police forces, particularly in communities that have high ethnic minority populations. i do think you need to bring back local policing with actual teeth, and you need to be serious about it. that's absolutely valid. but the reality is this is not just about protecting one group of people. it's about protecting the british public. and we have to see what's better for the wider good. and that is stop and

search. >> okay. what do you think, amy? do you think we should? >> i don't think it's good for the wider public. >> i think it's a bit like saying, right, we want to stop people dying on the roads. so we're going to make everyone drive at ten miles an hour. >> but that doesn't make sense, i think. >> stop and search causes more harm than good based on people's experiences. you get people who are stopped one at a time. >> amy i'm going based on results, not about feelings. it's the most effective. >> that's what i'm saying. >> that's what i'm saying. >> if you want results, you could do so many things. you could do so many things. you could stop and search. >> but stop and search is not stop. >> and traumatise, isn't it? >> and traumatise, isn't it? >> when you stop and search goes up, knife crime goes down. >> but at what cost? why don't you think about the other things that you could? >> i want knives off the road, but there are preventative things that we're not doing that we could do before we enact, stop and search more, more violently. >> one thing and amy briefly do multiple things at the same time. >> briefly, how do we fix the values in our society? how do we fix our broken communities? >> and these people a bit of a stake in society so that they can actually maybe like a house, like a house, maybe we can start with maybe a bit of connection community. >> yeah, that type of thing. good public services, you know, pay good public services, you know, pay doctors. >> well . so pay doctors. >> well. so junior pay doctors. >> well . so junior doctors get a

>> well. so junior doctors get a pay >> well. so junior doctors get a pay rise and there'll be less knife crime. that's up there with brexit. nigel brief, last word of you. >> yeah. yes. stop and search of course. works. it's highly effective. it should be fully implemented. but also where you have crimes committed by illegal migrants here, they should be deported . send them out of the deported. send them out of the country. they should not be here. >> okay. agree on that one. coming up. is suella braverman an outstanding and courageous former home secretary. one of my panellists thinks so. we'll debate that in tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. but next, as the boss of a nutrition app claims that obesity has nothing to do with a lack of self control, is he right that fat people simply can't help it? plus, more stories from the papers. see you in two.

more front pages and we start with the telegraph and they lead with. they lead with violence erupts over child killings. riot police clash with mob at

southport mosque. despite minister's warning for to public stop stirring discontent. no room to build on green belt. that's nonsense, says angela rayner. that's nonsense, says angela rayner . rachel reeves admits she rayner. rachel reeves admits she will have to raise taxes in the autumn budget. in other news, the pope practices catholicism, the pope practices catholicism, the independent now and no words to describe the devastation that has hit our family, as police name the three girls killed in the southport dance class knife attack. the family of the youngest six year old bibi share their anguish and daily mirror. a town in tears. keep smiling and keep dancing . heartbreaking and keep dancing. heartbreaking tributes to three young victims of kids club knife attack. okay, well let's move on now. let's get reaction to the big stories of the day with esther krakue, nile gardiner and amy nicole turner and does obesity have nothing to do with the lack of self—control that is the view of the boss of nutrition app zoe. according to jonathan wolf, ultra processed foods are to

blame for the profound damage that's been done to people's appetite control over the previous ten, 20 and 30 years. so amy, is obesity the fault of the overweight person or are they victims of a toxic food environment? >> there is room for personal responsibility, but we live in a food environment which contains ultra processed foods, which are so awful that they will probably one day come with a health warning . and also we need to warning. and also we need to incorporate hormones. we need to incorporate hormones. we need to incorporate genetics, which play a massive role in this as well. >> definitely. i mean, we are surrounded, aren't we, by junk food? when you go to the supermarket, most of the aisles are filled with these ultra processed foods, things in boxes with a million ingredients which all taste delicious. >> but there was a there's an island, where they did nuclear testing. do you know about this? no and they couldn't eat the food produced there . so the food produced there. so the americans sent them ultra processed food . guess what? processed food. guess what? they're all enormous. unbelievable. so there's your

little social experiment done and dusted. >> there's your evidence . >> there's your evidence. >> there's your evidence. >> i agree with you that it's much harder to be to be healthy and to remain of a healthy weight, particularly in the developed countries , mainly the developed countries, mainly the us. i mean, i can't eat when i go to the us, i find the food disgusting and so hard to navigate. it's horrible. it's horrible because because it's just full of hormones. these are like unreadable ingredients. exactly. all of that. and so i do appreciate that it's a much harder environment to stay healthy . but ultimately it does healthy. but ultimately it does come down to the individual and the choices that they make, and obesity isn't just about eating too much and too much of the wrong stuff. it's also about exercise, and on that point, it's entirely up to the individual. i like food, like tesco can't make you go running. you have to choose to go running. >> niall. this is a big problem for health systems around the world. obesity could bankrupt the nhs eventually , the n hs eventually, >> the nhs eventually, >> it could do, but i've just got to respond to the point about, food in america. >> and because you've just flown in from the states, it's where

you live. >> there's a lot of great food in america and i don't doubt that. >> but it's not because you're a bit posh and you can go to whole foods. >> you've got a budget. >> you've got a budget. >> i do not go to whole foods, so i'll, i'll say this, that in america, the vast majority of people are against all of these government regulations about what you can and cannot eat. you know, it's a free country. you don't have the nanny state telling you, what you can and cannot eat. that's right. the government has no role in this. people should be able to decide what they eat. but of course, people should watch their weight. and you know how many calories a day they eat and so on. but it's not the role of the government to tell them, you cannot eat this or that, or you can't eat processed food. and so the united states, of course, is based upon the principles of individual liberty and freedom. that's the way it should be. and all of this nanny state, i think i agree with you. >> what i, what i would say is, i would say is information, not instruction. we should have done that during covid. shouldn't we give people information, not instruction? if you want my recommendation, i'm not a doctor. i'm not an expert. but michael mosley, the late, great

michael mosley, the late, great michael mosley, the late, great michael mosley, his book the fast 800 keto, was amazing for me. i lost three stone. i've got that. i'm going to change your diet. consult your doctor quick one. do we need to address the lack of diversity in english football management? currently there are just two black managers out of the 92. in the top tiers of english football. the faa are concerned about this and want to work harder to ensure there are candidates from ethnic minority backgrounds who could eventually be england manager s2 this is important, isn't it? >> it's what are we not going to happen, because there's too much riding on it. i think whenever you talk about, sort of having diversity hires in particular industries, it's usually the unimportant jobs, no serious person talks about the kind of diversity pushes for like, pilots or eye surgeons or football managers that are paid a lot. and there are high expectations on what they the results that they produce, and so one, i don't think it's going to happen. and two, i don't think that's a very necessary approach. just hire the best person for the job.

>> well, what do you think about this? it's a debate that rages in america with these sort of diversity. is it diversity eqtu diversity. is it diversity equity and inclusion? >> dei yeah, that's correct a big, big debate over that. and i think a growing backlash against dei policies, which which are fundamentally wrong because they are about racial discrimination and that should never be acceptable. and the england manager should be decided based on on ability and quality experience, not not on the colour of one's skin. and let's let's remember the words of, of martin luther king junior, who said that we should not judge people by their skin colour, but by their character, really, and by their character, really, and by their character, really, and by their ability and that's that's the right approach here. no one should be selected based upon the colour of their skin, or discriminated against based on the colour of their skin. >> no, but briefly, amy, i agree with nigel, but actually black managers are massively underrepresented within british football and it is a problem, isn't it? >> yes, especially because

they're overrepresented in terms of black football players . now of black football players. now players normally end up managers, so you'd think they would be represented at 43% if anything. so the fa have said that there is there is a problem and meritocracy surely only comes from levelling the playing field. >> i think . and the reason so >> i think. and the reason so one of the reasons why , there one of the reasons why, there you see such a sort of low kind of uptake from black football players becoming managers is because of the kind of the culture within the manager. so who who's who? okay. so they tend to be quite friendly briefly, amy and stuff like that. and they don't tend to be within that cohort. i do think it's a problem because you might be overlooking great football black football players okay. managers. but again it should be based on talent okay. >> of course. and that's what it's about levelling the field so that the talent can be evenly distributed okay. >> fascinating stuff. now it's time for my pundits to nominate their greatest britain and union jack house. okay, quick. if you can, esther. your greatest britain, >> well , britain, >> well, britain's the victims of the southport attack. >> i don't think there's really

any any more deserving. >> i know. well, said niall, your greatest britain today . your greatest britain today. >> suella braverman. who announced she was not running for the leadership of the conservative party. but she is a great conservative. she was an outstanding home secretary and i think she really stands up for millions of britons who who wish to see conservative policies implemented. and i think she's a very inspirational figure. >> amy. nicole, your greatest briton. i saw you nodding your head there to suella braverman everyone , everyone, >> joel. verity, he's this amazing guy who was there yesterday in southport, and he stepped in to help rescue some of the children when they were being attacked. he's a personal trainer. i think he was just driving by and he heard some screams. okay, help the situation. >> well, let me tell you that joel verity is my winner. what a brilliant nomination. a truly heroic guy and someone that will always have your back. briefly. now your union jack has esther the olympics for allowing biological male to box a female

player. oh, absolutely. niall, your union jack has, david lammy. >> he should not be foreign secretary, embarrassing. really he's already kowtowing to the european union. he's been terrible on the middle east. he said appalling things about donald trump, which is going to cause huge problems. i think for the uk, if trump wins the presidency. >> disaster. amy, a couple of seconds if you can. >> so this story of bob ballard, the euros sports commentator, who said, oh, the women are off doing their makeup burst out laughing. his co—presenter was like, oh, you're outrageous . like, oh, you're outrageous. he's lost his job through this. and i think it's awful, especially when you consider that there's a child rapist at the olympics. >> amy, i completely agree with you, but i'm going to give it to esther and the olympics. worst olympics we've ever had, i'm back tomorrow from nine, thanks to the team and my lovely pundits. headliners is next. see you tomorrow . you tomorrow. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news

>> good evening. here's your latest gb news. weather forecast from the met office . the high from the met office. the high temperatures, the high humidity will continue across southern parts through the next few days. and that brings the risk of some thunderstorms. high pressure is generally in control, leading to a lot of fine and settled weather, but there is a weak front across northern parts of scotland and here it is a bit fresher than elsewhere. but as we go through the night, do watch out for some hefty showers pushing into southern parts of england. some of these could have the odd bit of thunder mixed in as well, and there may be a few pockets of mist and fog, but across southern parts it's really going to be a warm and sticky night. temperatures really holding up much fresher story further north. in fact, in some of the rural spots, the sheltered glens of scotland, we could fall as low as 4 or 5 celsius. so a bit of a fresher , celsius. so a bit of a fresher, chilly start across scotland first thing. and that front i mentioned earlier, bringing some outbreaks of rain to the northern isles. otherwise it's a dry, bright and sunny story for many. a bit more cloud, perhaps

across parts of northern ireland and some parts of northern england. a bit of a grey start here. but elsewhere across much of england and wales, any mist and fog patches that do develop overnight will quickly be burnt away by the sun, and there will be plenty of sunshine and plenty of blue skies. that being said, we are expecting a few more showers to develop as we go into the afternoon, particularly across southern southeastern parts, and these showers could be fairly intense. some heavy downpours , some frequent downpours, some frequent lightning, some thunder and hail all could lead to some issues. the temperatures are still going to be on the high side , just to be on the high side, just about getting into the low 30s across the south. fresher than this though. further north similar to today. high teens, low 20s, so feeling warm enough in any sunshine into thursday and the heavy thunderstorms

>> good evening. you're with gb news in a moment. headliners. but first let's bring you the latest news headlines and police have condemned the disorder which broke out in southport this evening on merseyside, where earlier a vigil was held to remember the three little girls killed in a multiple knife attack. merseyside police have now issued a dispersal order giving officers the power to stop and search for weapons. it comes after a police van was set on fire and items were thrown at officers with one officer suffering a suspected broken nose. suffering a suspected broken nose . merseyside police say the nose. merseyside police say the riot began when a group of people , believed to be people, believed to be supporters of the english defence league , according to

defence league, according to police, threw items at a mosque , police, threw items at a mosque, adding that six arrests have been made. assistant chief constable alex goss has called the scenes sickening for a community already devastated the dispersal order will remain in force until 8:00 tomorrow night. well earlier on today , the prime well earlier on today, the prime minister paid tribute to the victims of the knife attack. he faced hostile shouts from the crowd , however, as he laid a crowd, however, as he laid a wreath and stood in silence with some people shouting how many more? the prime minister says it's now his mission to crack down on knife crime. >> i am very worried about high levels of knife crime, and i'm absolutely determined that my government will get to grips with it. but today is not the time for politics. today is the time for politics. today is the time to focus entirely on the families who are going through such pain and grief, and on the wider community. and of course, a time to say thank you to those that responded yesterday, the prime minister, well, the home

secretary tonight described the violence in southport as appalling. >> and she said that a statement she released a statement warning those people responsible that they will face the full force of they will face the full force of the law. here's what she had to say . say. >> so appalling to now see those same police facing violent attacks from thugs on the streets who have no respect for a grieving community. it's a total disgrace. frankly. this is a time when everyone should be showing respect for a community and for the police . and for the police. >> yvette cooper. well, tonight's disruption broke out less than a couple of hours after the southport community came together to mark a minute's silence for the three little girls who died. they were named by merseyside police today as elsie stancomb alice maguire and b.b. king. nine, seven and six years old. five other children and two adults remain in a critical condition after what was described as a ferocious attack on a dance class . it was

attack on a dance class. it was attack on a dance class. it was a taylor swift themed dance workshop at the start of the school summer holidays. the pop star herself paid tribute to the dead children, saying she is in shock at the loss of life and horrendous trauma, adding they were just little kids now. news away from southport tonight, a serial shoplifter who committed what was described as near olympian scale fraud has been jailed for ten years. narinder kaur travelled all over the country to carry out what the judge described as a tsunami of dishonesty against top high street retailers. she stole around half £1 million worth of items. gloucester crown court heafing items. gloucester crown court hearing the 54 year old stole from boots, debenhams , john from boots, debenhams, john lewis and tk max more than a thousand times and finally great britain have taken gold in the pool tonight, putting us seventh in the medal table. the british quartette of james guy, tom dean, matthew richards, duncan scott led from the start and

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